Surprise! Employees Have the Right to Secretly Record Workplace Conversations, Yes, Even in California

Before you all jump on me about hating California law, this one does not come from California.  In fact, this rule comes from our friends at the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB), despite California law.

As many of you know, California is a dual-consent state, which means that the general rule regarding recording of conversations is that both parties must consent.  And that in fact is still the rule when it applies to YOU, as the employer.  That is why you cannot unilaterally install audio recording devices in your establishments or on your phones, without first getting the consent of all parties to record the conversation.

However, as you may also recall, when it comes to state law, in many cases, certain federal laws will “pre-empt” and take precedence over those state laws. One such law is the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA). 

Under current NLRB precedent, employees have the right to record at the workplace under the NLRA if they are engaging in “protected concerted activity” with the recording. Protected concerted activity in turn covers a wide array of employee activities, including but not limited to discussing wages, benefits, and other terms and conditions of employment, union organizing, and other collective employee organizing efforts.

To that end, in a February 2023, the NLRB ruled that two employees who secretly recorded management conversations had, in doing so, engaged in protected concerted activity. The NLRB’s rationale was that, since the employees made the recordings out of a concern that management would later retaliate against them for engaging in protected concerted activities, such as their unionization efforts, the employees’ actions were protected under the NLRA, even in a dual consent state where the company had a policy against such clandestine recording. Starbucks Corporation et al., NLRB, Feb. 13, 2023.

The NLRB is famous for taking extremely broad views, and this is yet another one.  We did revise our handbook policy for 2024 in light of this ruling, but I held off making any broad announcements about this decision, waiting to see how much traction it received in California.  I still have not seen any California court decisions embracing this ruling.  However, in the last year, I have seen several employees boldly record meetings and cite to “their right” to so record.  And since my clients all thought they had the right to fire employees for secretly recording those meetings, I decided it was time to do one of these articles and advise you all of this new ruling. 

The NRLB decision is not without its limits.  The right to record extends to management conversations which impact the terms and conditions of employment.   Further, employers still have a right to protect trade secret, confidential and true “private” information.  But those work rules will be interpreted narrowly.   Employers or high level employees who deal with highly confidential work settings, government contractors, financial institutions, healthcare, may have different sets of privacy concerns.  Reach out if you have questions about this new law, and be wary of your meetings with employees, lest you have them be recorded.

2 Comments Add yours

  1. Gavrielle says:

    Hi there! I do Have questions about this new law. Scenario: California – employee has proactively attempted to have employer address a hostile work environment and has gone so far as to file a formal complaint against their direct supervisor for harassment/bullying. Management had done nothing to resolve issue, ongoing for over a year. Employee decides to record 2 small dept meetings – announces intention to record for accurate meeting minutes. Two people state announcement was heard. One was on teams and had digital notification of recording beginning. No objections. Employee was terminated for secretly recording meeting because their supervisor states they did not have knowledge nor give consent. Same supervisor that employee had filed the complaint about mere weeks prior. Conference room is not sound proof, door may or may not have been fully closed, meeting minutes/information in meeting not confidential in matter. Questions: Is employee covered under this new law?

    1. Beth A. Schroeder says:

      It’s a complicated scenario, in part because of the state of flux with the NLRB under the new administration. Still, I would counsel my business clients to take care with this issue.

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